Comments on: Controversy surrounding Muchai Gas Pipeline Compressor Station of GTCL. http://www.ebangladesh.com/2009/12/18/controversy-surrounding-muchai-gas-pipeline-compressor-station-of-gtcl/ News/Headlines service of Bangladesh Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:49:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Masud http://www.ebangladesh.com/2009/12/18/controversy-surrounding-muchai-gas-pipeline-compressor-station-of-gtcl/comment-page-1/#comment-9035 Masud Wed, 23 Dec 2009 10:18:24 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/?p=2100#comment-9035 To: Mr. Afzal. Thanks for your comments. If we are not party or coterie biased I do think, we can readily agree on the actual facts.The problem is we tend to affiliate ourselves with this or that tent. Its the country first and not the leaders or the parties. Our people seems to worship their leaders and does time and again forgave their mischiefs. I do still believe that the differences of opinions among us, as above, stem from the fact that we have our own perceptions and judgement on specific issues but when this is colored by party bias or any sort of likes and dislikes, we not only do immense harm to our country but also to our future generation by "giving ways" to the goons and the thieves to lead us. Thanks and regards. To: Mr. Afzal.
Thanks for your comments. If we are not party or coterie biased I do think, we can readily agree on the actual facts.The problem is we tend to affiliate ourselves with this or that tent. Its the country first and not the leaders or the parties. Our people seems to worship their leaders and does time and again forgave their mischiefs. I do still believe that the differences of opinions among us, as above, stem from the fact that we have our own perceptions and judgement on specific issues but when this is colored by party bias or any sort of likes and dislikes, we not only do immense harm to our country but also to our future generation by “giving ways” to the goons and the thieves to lead us. Thanks and regards.

]]> By: afzal khan http://www.ebangladesh.com/2009/12/18/controversy-surrounding-muchai-gas-pipeline-compressor-station-of-gtcl/comment-page-1/#comment-9034 afzal khan Wed, 23 Dec 2009 04:33:10 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/?p=2100#comment-9034 Mr. Masud With due respect. Thanks for your honest comment and i do 100% agree with your following hponest remark. ""Its not that all the dishonest persons/politicians were arrested by the CTG, but the ones who were arrested are all proven felons, goons and culprits, but they were too powerful in a corrupt country where thieves and dacoits are the lawgivers and where high court judges can be bribed. EXCELLENT, we need unity of thought and we have to change our way of thinking, if we want to elevate our next generation. Mr. Masud
With due respect. Thanks for your honest comment and i do 100% agree with your following hponest remark.
“”Its not that all the dishonest persons/politicians were arrested by the CTG, but the ones who were arrested are all proven felons, goons and culprits, but they were too powerful in a corrupt country where thieves and dacoits are the lawgivers and where high court judges can be bribed.
EXCELLENT, we need unity of thought and we have to change our way of thinking, if we want to elevate our next generation.

]]> By: Masud http://www.ebangladesh.com/2009/12/18/controversy-surrounding-muchai-gas-pipeline-compressor-station-of-gtcl/comment-page-1/#comment-9031 Masud Tue, 22 Dec 2009 03:38:16 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/?p=2100#comment-9031 To: Shariar, Afza and Sufi: I do think, the debate is still within the limit of sanity - thanks. Just to make one point clear - ref Shariar's mail. Its not that all the dishonest persons/politicians were arrested by the CTG, but the ones who were arrested are all proven felons, goons and culprits, but they were too powerful in a corrupt country where thieves and dacoits are the lawgivers and where high court judges can be bribed. If we judge honesty in a narrow sense i.e. from the perspectives of taking benefits when in power, then one or two may be cited - Matia Chow is one of them - even her opponents agree to it. But MK Anwar ? The entire debate triggered centering Dr. Taufique and Jay - I keep my cards under the blanket and wont be willing to bet on their hoensty. To: Shariar, Afza and Sufi:
I do think, the debate is still within the limit of sanity – thanks.
Just to make one point clear – ref Shariar’s mail. Its not that all the dishonest persons/politicians were arrested by the CTG, but the ones who were arrested are all proven felons, goons and culprits, but they were too powerful in a corrupt country where thieves and dacoits are the lawgivers and where high court judges can be bribed. If we judge honesty in a narrow sense i.e. from the perspectives of taking benefits when in power, then one or two may be cited – Matia Chow is one of them – even her opponents agree to it. But MK Anwar ? The entire debate triggered centering Dr. Taufique and Jay – I keep my cards under the blanket and wont be willing to bet on their hoensty.

]]> By: afzal khan http://www.ebangladesh.com/2009/12/18/controversy-surrounding-muchai-gas-pipeline-compressor-station-of-gtcl/comment-page-1/#comment-9029 afzal khan Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:55:52 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/?p=2100#comment-9029 Dear Engr Khondkar Abdus Saleque( Sufi), Thank you very much for your thoughtful response. Dear Engr Khondkar Abdus Saleque( Sufi),
Thank you very much for your thoughtful response.

]]> By: afzal khan http://www.ebangladesh.com/2009/12/18/controversy-surrounding-muchai-gas-pipeline-compressor-station-of-gtcl/comment-page-1/#comment-9028 afzal khan Tue, 22 Dec 2009 01:46:49 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/?p=2100#comment-9028 Mr.Shariar, Respectfully, may be it is my inability i could not make you understand my question, how we will judge some bodies honesty? My question is still there how we are going to define honesty??? Unfortunately every time you are bringing Mr.Rahman in your presentation. From the beginning i ask you my dear , may be you have personal problem with Mr.Rahman but you denied.But today in your response you confused me. Honestly speaking my concern is not MR. Rahman . My only concern is how we are gonging to judge some bodies dishonesty?? Because of Amerdesh published the news? Because of Mr. Rahman? Because of MR. Rahman has no credibility as the owner of Amerdesh? Because other news paper did not published the news?? Because Mr.Rahman is the supporter of BNP and doctrine of Mr. Zia? Because Mr.Rahman has lost his credibility in your view. Because of Amerdesh published news on 16th December? If what i mention is correct then are we not using logic again to judge dishonesty. Dear , i always try to learn from others. Please ignore my any kind of mistakes. I always like to raise question. i try to exercise my patience. I try to follow a principal----------- Condemnation with out investigation is the highest form of ignorance. ALBERT EINSTEIN. Mr.Shariar,
Respectfully, may be it is my inability i could not make you understand my question, how we will judge some bodies honesty? My question is still there how we are going to define honesty??? Unfortunately every time you are bringing Mr.Rahman in your presentation. From the beginning i ask you my dear , may be you have personal problem with Mr.Rahman but you denied.But today in your response you confused me. Honestly speaking my concern is not MR. Rahman . My only concern is how we are gonging to judge some bodies dishonesty??
Because of Amerdesh published the news?
Because of Mr. Rahman?
Because of MR. Rahman has no credibility as the owner of Amerdesh?
Because other news paper did not published the news??
Because Mr.Rahman is the supporter of BNP and doctrine of Mr. Zia?
Because Mr.Rahman has lost his credibility in your view.
Because of Amerdesh published news on 16th December?
If what i mention is correct then are we not using logic again to judge dishonesty.
Dear , i always try to learn from others. Please ignore my any kind of mistakes. I always like to raise question. i try to exercise my patience.
I try to follow a principal———–
Condemnation with out investigation is the highest form of ignorance.
ALBERT EINSTEIN.

]]> By: Shahriar http://www.ebangladesh.com/2009/12/18/controversy-surrounding-muchai-gas-pipeline-compressor-station-of-gtcl/comment-page-1/#comment-9024 Shahriar Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:38:40 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/?p=2100#comment-9024 To Mr. Afzal Khan and Engr. Abdus Saleque, About the allegation: Is it that only Mr. Mahmudur knows about every secret news of Titas or Petro-Bangla? There are no journalist who can serve the country on the same issue? Mr. Mahmudur has no credibility as the owner of the News Paper. He's running the paper just to propagate the pet-doctrine of BNP and Zia Family. Just only one question....the news could have been posted on the 18th December as well. But, this has bee posted on the victory day when all other news have reported on our glorious 16th december as the headline! My writing is certainly not to support Joy and Mr. Elahi, however, I am just saying that people like Mr. Mahmudur has lost his all credibility! However, I think we should be asking him for the proof if he has any. And the objection should certainly include the name of a real person. You can't use a name randomly and raise fingers to others. This will create a social outcast at the end. It's the POOREST journalism indeed. To Mr. Afzal Khan and Engr. Abdus Saleque,

About the allegation: Is it that only Mr. Mahmudur knows about every secret news of Titas or Petro-Bangla? There are no journalist who can serve the country on the same issue?

Mr. Mahmudur has no credibility as the owner of the News Paper. He’s running the paper just to propagate the pet-doctrine of BNP and Zia Family. Just only one question….the news could have been posted on the 18th December as well. But, this has bee posted on the victory day when all other news have reported on our glorious 16th december as the headline!

My writing is certainly not to support Joy and Mr. Elahi, however, I am just saying that people like Mr. Mahmudur has lost his all credibility!

However, I think we should be asking him for the proof if he has any. And the objection should certainly include the name of a real person. You can’t use a name randomly and raise fingers to others. This will create a social outcast at the end. It’s the POOREST journalism indeed.

]]> By: Engr Khondkar Abdus Saleque( Sufi) http://www.ebangladesh.com/2009/12/18/controversy-surrounding-muchai-gas-pipeline-compressor-station-of-gtcl/comment-page-1/#comment-9023 Engr Khondkar Abdus Saleque( Sufi) Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:20:29 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/?p=2100#comment-9023 I am monitoring the discussion in the forum. If some one talks about honesty in the context of Bangladesh he/ she will have to struggle a lot. Remember in our youth a Bangla Stage drama was very popular, "Saath Manusher Khojey ". Still Mtia Apa is one of those rear breed. I have some experience of Mr Nahid when as Project Manager GTCL I had to g build a very diffult gas pipeline in Beanibazar area. Unscrupulous elements tried to cause serious troubles. I wanted his assistance as he was MP> But that was not available. Mr Nazrul Islam Khans wife Mrs Olifa was my collegaue in Titas Gas in 1977. Nazrul Islam Khan is a sensible politicina. M.K Anwar is one of the 303 listed convicted person. He made us BGSL waste huge tax payers money in taking gas to his area. Mr Kaders brother Open was my batch mate in BUET . I had opportunity to attend several seminars with Kader Bhai. He is really a bright visionary person. I am monitoring the discussion in the forum. If some one talks about honesty in the context of Bangladesh he/ she will have to struggle a lot. Remember in our youth a Bangla Stage drama was very popular, “Saath Manusher Khojey “. Still Mtia Apa is one of those rear breed. I have some experience of Mr Nahid when as Project Manager GTCL I had to g build a very diffult gas pipeline in Beanibazar area. Unscrupulous elements tried to cause serious troubles. I wanted his assistance as he was MP> But that was not available.
Mr Nazrul Islam Khans wife Mrs Olifa was my collegaue in Titas Gas in 1977. Nazrul Islam Khan is a sensible politicina. M.K Anwar is one of the 303 listed convicted person. He made us BGSL waste huge tax payers money in taking gas to his area. Mr Kaders brother Open was my batch mate in BUET . I had opportunity to attend several seminars with Kader Bhai. He is really a bright visionary person.

]]> By: afzal khan http://www.ebangladesh.com/2009/12/18/controversy-surrounding-muchai-gas-pipeline-compressor-station-of-gtcl/comment-page-1/#comment-9022 afzal khan Mon, 21 Dec 2009 03:46:23 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/?p=2100#comment-9022 Mr.Shariar, Again with due respect, i think most of the people with sensible mind will agree with you that, logic, arrested or not is not the yardstick to judge some bodies honesty and sincerity. It is the action based on correct adopted idea will judge some bodies honesty and sincerity. Honestly speaking, the point you wanted to raise is perfect with me. I do appreciate your focal point and concern.. My dear,based on your comment i believe you must be a man of rational but your list of honest leaders are contradictory. 1. Motia Chowdhury…..AWL No idea about her honesty but changed her political ideology.Honesty is in question mark. 2. Nurul Islam Nahid…AWL No idea about his honesty but he changed his ideology. Honesty is in question mark. 3. Begum Monnujan Sufian…AWL I have no information about her honesty. 4. Nazrul Islam Khan…BNP No information about honesty. 5. M.K.Anwar…..BNP According to his relative number one dishonest. 5. GM Kader….Jatio Party He is the brother of Mr.Ershad. By profession he is an engineer.I know in his student life ( Chittagong engineering college)he never used his brother influence. Any way we all know, it is impossible to maintain honesty in the field of politics. If we can define what is honesty then it will be very easy for us to judge each and every bodies honesty with out any disagreement. Question now, who is going to define honesty?? Definition of terrorism is still pending in the UN. Some bodies freedom fighter is some bodies terrorist. So we will remain divided because there is no unique yard stick. Hidden power wants us to remain divided. Let us try to build unity of thoughts in the field of national interest. Let us ignore irrational comments. Mr.Shariar,
Again with due respect, i think most of the people with sensible mind will agree with you that, logic, arrested or not is not the yardstick to judge some bodies honesty and sincerity. It is the action based on correct adopted idea will judge some bodies honesty and sincerity. Honestly speaking, the point you wanted to raise is perfect with me. I do appreciate your focal point and concern..
My dear,based on your comment i believe you must be a man of rational but your list of honest leaders are contradictory.
1. Motia Chowdhury…..AWL
No idea about her honesty but changed her political ideology.Honesty is in question mark.
2. Nurul Islam Nahid…AWL
No idea about his honesty but he changed his ideology. Honesty is in question mark.
3. Begum Monnujan Sufian…AWL
I have no information about her honesty.
4. Nazrul Islam Khan…BNP
No information about honesty.
5. M.K.Anwar…..BNP
According to his relative number one dishonest.
5. GM Kader….Jatio Party
He is the brother of Mr.Ershad. By profession he is an engineer.I know in his student life ( Chittagong engineering college)he never used his brother influence.
Any way we all know, it is impossible to maintain honesty in the field of politics. If we can define what is honesty then it will be very easy for us to judge each and every bodies honesty with out any disagreement.
Question now, who is going to define honesty??
Definition of terrorism is still pending in the UN. Some bodies freedom fighter is some bodies terrorist. So we will remain divided because there is no unique yard stick. Hidden power wants us to remain divided. Let us try to build unity of thoughts in the field of national interest. Let us ignore irrational comments.

]]> By: Engr Khondkar Abdus Saleque( Sufi) http://www.ebangladesh.com/2009/12/18/controversy-surrounding-muchai-gas-pipeline-compressor-station-of-gtcl/comment-page-1/#comment-9021 Engr Khondkar Abdus Saleque( Sufi) Sun, 20 Dec 2009 10:07:53 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/?p=2100#comment-9021 Can I politely request you to focus your radar to the issue raised in my write up as far as practicable. Mahmud was my batch mate in BUET, my initimate collegaue in Titas Gas. We shared same rented house in Dhaka at the outset of our professional career. We were initimate also till he spent about three weeks in EMRD . I had to suffer inc voluntary dissociation from Bangladesh Gas sector after serving 28 glorious years. I know Mahmud inside out. But since he was so intimate friend I will not make comments about him. But one thing I acn tell here when IN BUET or in Titas he was least interested about politics or Journalism. These must have been his added credential after marrying in Monno family. He was a honorable person. I hope he will be careful about his dignity. Politics in Bangladesh can make heroe a villain overnight. If one search holes in others his holes are also targetted. Can I politely request you to focus your radar to the issue raised in my write up as far as practicable. Mahmud was my batch mate in BUET, my initimate collegaue in Titas Gas. We shared same rented house in Dhaka at the outset of our professional career. We were initimate also till he spent about three weeks in EMRD . I had to suffer inc voluntary dissociation from Bangladesh Gas sector after serving 28 glorious years.
I know Mahmud inside out. But since he was so intimate friend I will not make comments about him. But one thing I acn tell here when IN BUET or in Titas he was least interested about politics or Journalism. These must have been his added credential after marrying in Monno family.
He was a honorable person. I hope he will be careful about his dignity.
Politics in Bangladesh can make heroe a villain overnight. If one search holes in others his holes are also targetted.

]]> By: Shahriar http://www.ebangladesh.com/2009/12/18/controversy-surrounding-muchai-gas-pipeline-compressor-station-of-gtcl/comment-page-1/#comment-9020 Shahriar Sun, 20 Dec 2009 08:47:57 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/?p=2100#comment-9020 Dear Mr. Afzal Khan, Thanks for replying to my message. When the logic is that if a person has been arrested by the CTG of 2007-2008 or not to decide about someone's honesty, then it simply the most STUPID logic a human being can devise of. 1. Mannan Bhuia, Amir Hossain Amu...they were not arrested. So, they are honest persons? 2. Sayeed Iskandar was not arrested...so he was an honest man! There are a lot like this. 3. No Army general was arrested. So, there's no corruption in Army. I shall believe it during the KeyaMot only. Just wait till then plz. So, to consider Mr. Rahman as honest person based on such logic is always objectionable. Now, the question...how credible the report is? or what could be the intention behind it? --There are a couple of Anti-Govt. news paper. But nobody knew about the SCAM of this "Jalani Montrona-loy and Chevron issue" except Mr. Mahmudur Rahman and Gong. who happens to be the X-advisor of the same organization! And the objection was made by fictitous person which simply weakens the allegation as well. I don't have any personal issues with Mr. Rahman. I am very normal person with only access to internet and certainly not to anything else. Based on previous activities of this Mr. Rahman, it is logical to put a '?' sign just after his name andhis credibility and to assume his actions are just political propagandas. Well, there are good politicians even during the age of corruption.... 1. Motia Chowdhury.....AWL 2. Nurul Islam Nahid...AWL 3. Begum Monnujan Sufian...AWL 4. Nazrul Islam Khan...BNP 5. M.K.Anwar.....BNP 5. GM Kader....Jatio Party There are a couple of few...you know the problem of this country?...it's PEOPLE only...In the country where PEOPLE certify their leaders as honset/dishonest based on whether they were arrested/not arrested during CTG of 2007-2008, the country SHOULD remain as a CORRUPT country forever. Dear Mr. Afzal Khan,

Thanks for replying to my message.

When the logic is that if a person has been arrested by the CTG of 2007-2008 or not to decide about someone’s honesty, then it simply the most STUPID logic a human being can devise of.

1. Mannan Bhuia, Amir Hossain Amu…they were not arrested. So, they are honest persons?

2. Sayeed Iskandar was not arrested…so he was an honest man! There are a lot like this.

3. No Army general was arrested. So, there’s no corruption in Army. I shall believe it during the KeyaMot only. Just wait till then plz.

So, to consider Mr. Rahman as honest person based on such logic is always objectionable. Now, the question…how credible the report is? or what could be the intention behind it?

–There are a couple of Anti-Govt. news paper. But nobody knew about the SCAM of this “Jalani Montrona-loy and Chevron issue” except Mr. Mahmudur Rahman and Gong. who happens to be the X-advisor of the same organization! And the objection was made by fictitous person which simply weakens the allegation as well.

I don’t have any personal issues with Mr. Rahman. I am very normal person with only access to internet and certainly not to anything else. Based on previous activities of this Mr. Rahman, it is logical to put a ‘?’ sign just after his name andhis credibility and to assume his actions are just political propagandas.

Well, there are good politicians even during the age of corruption….

1. Motia Chowdhury…..AWL
2. Nurul Islam Nahid…AWL
3. Begum Monnujan Sufian…AWL
4. Nazrul Islam Khan…BNP
5. M.K.Anwar…..BNP
5. GM Kader….Jatio Party

There are a couple of few…you know the problem of this country?…it’s PEOPLE only…In the country where PEOPLE certify their leaders as honset/dishonest based on whether they were arrested/not arrested during CTG of 2007-2008, the country SHOULD remain as a CORRUPT country forever.

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