Comments on: For Bangladesh http://www.ebangladesh.com/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/ News/Headlines service of Bangladesh Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:51:04 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Iconus Clustus http://www.ebangladesh.com/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/comment-page-1/#comment-251 Iconus Clustus Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:29:20 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/#comment-251 A possible excellent conversation on an equally interesting topic completely destroyed by a moron... but what is more disheartening is that we, as a group, let it happen by actually falling into the trap of having a conversation with him. Now, let us get back to the topic and ask some fundamental questions: 1. What purpose does the army serve? 2. What is a cost-benefit analysis of it? 3. What are the historical roots? 4. Who/which group/class lets it survive and flourish? 5. What are the national and international implications and relations of having an army? 6. Most importantly: What should the extent of involvement... how much of the national budget be allocated for that purpose? 7. And many others.... A possible excellent conversation on an equally interesting topic completely destroyed by a moron… but what is more disheartening is that we, as a group, let it happen by actually falling into the trap of having a conversation with him.

Now, let us get back to the topic and ask some fundamental questions:

1. What purpose does the army serve?
2. What is a cost-benefit analysis of it?
3. What are the historical roots?
4. Who/which group/class lets it survive and flourish?
5. What are the national and international implications and relations of having an army?
6. Most importantly: What should the extent of involvement… how much of the national budget be allocated for that purpose?
7. And many others….

]]> By: The Monitor http://www.ebangladesh.com/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/comment-page-1/#comment-248 The Monitor Sun, 02 Sep 2007 15:12:41 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/#comment-248 <strong>[We tend not to publish this kind of comments clearly based on foul language and hyperboles. Also, we are not at all interested to see pro-military, anti-people propaganda in our discussion threads. However, I will let this pass for the comic value it carries -- Tasneem]</strong> Imran #8 Don't make me laugh. It is only ambition and dream of people like you. You can not bring our downfall. THE TRUTH is we put our selves in front to protect all the helpless and the weak. The truth is people like you can not handle the truth. Yes, support is waning in a blogger dream but you ask the average village man and you will get a different answer. Repression? What is that? Do you really understand it? We are the only people who can help organise for a democracy but you are not helping the situation. Are you? Accio #10 There is actually nothing 'defocusing' about my response. In fact what is defocusing is Americans and Europeans in the so called expat blogs interfering in our affairs. If you want focus join us to fight those who want to harm us. Do you not agree? 'say no to army' is anti state because it is like saying no to the creation of Bangladesh. Eh ki desh premik manushir kotha? 'history repeats' is what the Hindus believe, we do not have that in our religion. Amit #13 DGFI is the best thing and the only hope for the security. The army does not have any relationship with Al-Qaeeda and I wonder what lunatic said that. That kind of equation can only be the work of a Hindu. I think it is fair to say that SOME Hindus are paranoid about us becoming another Pakistan. Monitoring #14 Yes, I know but it does not apply to our enemies. I will not say anything more than that. Muhamad #15 I do not know any ABC. My job is to read some sites. How clever of you to call us the enemy of the people. We saved your mother and sister from being attacked by the Pakistani army. Mashuqur I have read your second paragraph. I would say that this is because of the corrupt idiot civilian government not because of us. It is easy for an American like you to insult our intelligence but it is people like us who worry about protecting your moneyed relatives in Bangladesh. Good to see democracy at work. [We tend not to publish this kind of comments clearly based on foul language and hyperboles. Also, we are not at all interested to see pro-military, anti-people propaganda in our discussion threads. However, I will let this pass for the comic value it carries -- Tasneem]

Imran #8

Don’t make me laugh. It is only ambition and dream of people like you. You can not bring our downfall. THE TRUTH is we put our selves in front to protect all the helpless and the weak. The truth is people like you can not handle the truth. Yes, support is waning in a blogger dream but you ask the average village man and you will get a different answer. Repression? What is that? Do you really understand it? We are the only people who can help organise for a democracy but you are not helping the situation. Are you?

Accio #10

There is actually nothing ‘defocusing’ about my response. In fact what is defocusing is Americans and Europeans in the so called expat blogs interfering in our affairs. If you want focus join us to fight those who want to harm us. Do you not agree? ‘say no to army’ is anti state because it is like saying no to the creation of Bangladesh. Eh ki desh premik manushir kotha?
‘history repeats’ is what the Hindus believe, we do not have that in our religion.

Amit #13

DGFI is the best thing and the only hope for the security. The army does not have any relationship with Al-Qaeeda and I wonder what lunatic said that. That kind of equation can only be the work of a Hindu. I think it is fair to say that SOME Hindus are paranoid about us becoming another Pakistan.

Monitoring #14

Yes, I know but it does not apply to our enemies. I will not say anything more than that.

Muhamad #15

I do not know any ABC. My job is to read some sites. How clever of you to call us the enemy of the people. We saved your mother and sister from being attacked by the Pakistani army.

Mashuqur

I have read your second paragraph. I would say that this is because of the corrupt idiot civilian government not because of us. It is easy for an American like you to insult our intelligence but it is people like us who worry about protecting your moneyed relatives in Bangladesh.

Good to see democracy at work.

]]> By: Monitoring the Monitor http://www.ebangladesh.com/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/comment-page-1/#comment-160 Monitoring the Monitor Mon, 27 Aug 2007 03:22:04 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/#comment-160 Thanks Mash, I'll watch my back!=) Frankly, I wouldn't be shocked to see "the Monitor" there in a few days myself. Thanks Mash, I’ll watch my back!=) Frankly, I wouldn’t be shocked to see “the Monitor” there in a few days myself.

]]> By: Mash http://www.ebangladesh.com/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/comment-page-1/#comment-156 Mash Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:38:19 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/#comment-156 I am reminded of the following exchange from the movie "A Fish Called Wanda": <blockquote>Wanda: To call you stupid would be an insult to stupid people. I've known sheep who could outwit you. I've worn dresses with higher IQs, but you think you're an intellectual, don't you, ape? Otto: Apes don't read philosophy. Wanda: Yes they do, Otto, they just don't understand it. </blockquote> Monitor, you might want to read the Bangladesh Constitution again. Also, reread my post, especially the second paragraph. Monitoring the Monitor, be careful. Otherwise the Monitor will render you to Gitmo. Its sad when the Monitor has to outsource people to Gitmo - I guess all the space in the "black holes" in Bangladesh are filled up with students, teachers and journalists. Muhamad, ABC paid my blog a visit too and left a nice threatening message. I guess he is the blogging liaison for the merry band of torturers. I am reminded of the following exchange from the movie “A Fish Called Wanda”:

Wanda: To call you stupid would be an insult to stupid people. I’ve known sheep who could outwit you. I’ve worn dresses with higher IQs, but you think you’re an intellectual, don’t you, ape?
Otto: Apes don’t read philosophy.
Wanda: Yes they do, Otto, they just don’t understand it.

Monitor, you might want to read the Bangladesh Constitution again. Also, reread my post, especially the second paragraph.

Monitoring the Monitor, be careful. Otherwise the Monitor will render you to Gitmo. Its sad when the Monitor has to outsource people to Gitmo – I guess all the space in the “black holes” in Bangladesh are filled up with students, teachers and journalists.

Muhamad, ABC paid my blog a visit too and left a nice threatening message. I guess he is the blogging liaison for the merry band of torturers.

]]> By: Muhamad http://www.ebangladesh.com/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/comment-page-1/#comment-154 Muhamad Sun, 26 Aug 2007 20:36:48 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/#comment-154 I can recall, quite recently, Rumi Ahmed's blog had a character calling his/her self "ABC" who baselessly went on to accuse certain people of dodgy-dealings. Jonogoner shotru is alive and kicking, but for how long? I can recall, quite recently, Rumi Ahmed’s blog had a character calling his/her self “ABC” who baselessly went on to accuse certain people of dodgy-dealings. Jonogoner shotru is alive and kicking, but for how long?

]]> By: Monitoring the Monitor http://www.ebangladesh.com/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/comment-page-1/#comment-149 Monitoring the Monitor Sun, 26 Aug 2007 17:21:09 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/#comment-149 What exactly is Bangladesh's stance on Guantanamo? Did the "Monitor" just commit treason himself by going against government policy by advocating the use of Gitmo? What exactly is Bangladesh’s stance on Guantanamo? Did the “Monitor” just commit treason himself by going against government policy by advocating the use of Gitmo?

]]> By: Amit Paul http://www.ebangladesh.com/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/comment-page-1/#comment-146 Amit Paul Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:59:31 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/#comment-146 <p>Monitor, don't live in confusion that people can't track you. It is fact and there is no point in giving importance to a guy like you. You know what is your problem? Just correct if I am wrong. You are doing slavery of army/DGFI. Still you are scared to come with your original name. Because fanatic people like you are scared if you guys are tracked down in Europe or USA, you may get caught by police because of the relation ship with al-Qaeda or terrorist organization or you never got any platform to put your stupid words . so you need progressive sites like E-Bangladesh, Drishtipat, Salam Dhaka or Shada Kalo which has credibility. . I am 100% sure if you open any blog, you guys will not get even 5% hit of those blogs. So you are begging here for attention. So don't make yourself a joker in front of people.</p> Monitor, don’t live in confusion that people can’t track you. It is fact and there is no point in giving importance to a guy like you. You know what is your problem? Just correct if I am wrong. You are doing slavery of army/DGFI. Still you are scared to come with your original name. Because fanatic people like you are scared if you guys are tracked down in Europe or USA, you may get caught by police because of the relation ship with al-Qaeda or terrorist organization or you never got any platform to put your stupid words . so you need progressive sites like E-Bangladesh, Drishtipat, Salam Dhaka or Shada Kalo which has credibility.
. I am 100% sure if you open any blog, you guys will not get even 5% hit of those blogs. So you are begging here for attention. So don’t make yourself a joker in front of people.

]]> By: The Monitor http://www.ebangladesh.com/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/comment-page-1/#comment-145 The Monitor Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:14:26 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/#comment-145 DNS? LOL. We can make it look as if we are posting from different locations. We can make it look as if it's your best friends DNS. How? :) There is no threat in my post what so ever. Mashuqur Rahman, your bill of rights and our constitution does not matter in rendition to Guantanamo. You should think twice about your position. Our constitution is for law obeying people not for the enemies of our state. DNS? LOL.

We can make it look as if we are posting from different locations. We can make it look as if it’s your best friends DNS. How? :)

There is no threat in my post what so ever.

Mashuqur Rahman, your bill of rights and our constitution does not matter in rendition to Guantanamo. You should think twice about your position. Our constitution is for law obeying people not for the enemies of our state.

]]> By: Mash http://www.ebangladesh.com/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Mash Sat, 25 Aug 2007 23:39:31 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/#comment-140 Hey Monitor, your "counterparts" in the US already know about me. After all, I live here and pay taxes here. I hope your "counterparts" in the US fax you a copy of the Bill of Rights. If not you can find it <a href="http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/funddocs/billeng.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Read them carefully. After that please read the Bangladesh Constitution, especially articles 26 to 47. Also read Article 11 very carefully. Now, it is up to you whether you feel that you can live up to the spirit of those articles of the Bangladesh Constitution or not. But after reading those articles of the Constitution, you might want to give some thought to your understanding of "national security". Hey Monitor, your “counterparts” in the US already know about me. After all, I live here and pay taxes here. I hope your “counterparts” in the US fax you a copy of the Bill of Rights. If not you can find it here. Read them carefully. After that please read the Bangladesh Constitution, especially articles 26 to 47. Also read Article 11 very carefully.

Now, it is up to you whether you feel that you can live up to the spirit of those articles of the Bangladesh Constitution or not. But after reading those articles of the Constitution, you might want to give some thought to your understanding of “national security”.

]]> By: Accio _ Freedom http://www.ebangladesh.com/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/comment-page-1/#comment-112 Accio _ Freedom Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:19:57 +0000 http://www.e-bangladesh.org/2007/08/23/for-bangladesh/#comment-112 Well its good to see that people with different perspectives are communicating with each other. But there are some "monitor" like posters who I think is always set for defocusing the whole issue with silly threats or arguments. And that reminds me when TK was arrested there was a propaganda in different blogs by these "monitor" like people that: "Say no to Army" is anti-state which was one of his forwarded group sms. Now when any sane citizen of Bangladesh will scream the same line after three months of that incident, I think "monitor" will run out of words to threat the whole nation and we will soon find them naked-bottom. So I think " Monitor " you can inform your counterpart in US as many times you want about as many bloggers you can think of, just remember history repeats itself. Whenever there was suppression, freedom hungry Bangladeshis fought to death. And on topic : Excellent piece Mash. Let's celebrate freedom of speech then. Well its good to see that people with different perspectives are communicating with each other. But there are some “monitor” like posters who I think is always set for defocusing the whole issue with silly threats or arguments. And that reminds me when TK was arrested there was a propaganda in different blogs by these “monitor” like people that: “Say no to Army” is anti-state which was one of his forwarded group sms. Now when any sane citizen of Bangladesh will scream the same line after three months of that incident, I think “monitor” will run out of words to threat the whole nation and we will soon find them naked-bottom. So I think ” Monitor ” you can inform your counterpart in US as many times you want about as many bloggers you can think of, just remember history repeats itself. Whenever there was suppression, freedom hungry Bangladeshis fought to death.

And on topic : Excellent piece Mash. Let’s celebrate freedom of speech then.

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